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David Crabill

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  • #15110

    David Crabill
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    Both shipping and online transactions are prohibited for a cottage food business. You would need a standard commercial license to ship. http://forrager.com/faq/#commercial

    #15080

    David Crabill
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    Is your kitchen fully-licensed as a commercial kitchen? If you’re just using a basic residential kitchen, then I wasn’t even aware that you could run a home bakery like this without using the cottage food law.

    Anyway, usually people start as a cottage food operation and then transition into a commercial bakery, but if your orders are down, then switching to a CFO might make sense. One big reason people choose a CFO over a commercial business is because of the complicated setup, but you’ve already done that.

    I think the main reason you might choose to convert to a CFO would mainly be because most things are less complicated. You wouldn’t have to get your kitchen inspected or even need a permit from the health dept (though I have heard that health depts in LA are asking to see product labels before you start). Labeling requirements are significantly minimized and permits/fees would be reduced. However, with the ease comes restrictions like a $20,000 sales cap and the requirement to make only cakes that don’t require refrigeration. That last point might be a deal breaker for you.

    Again, I’d be interested to know how and when you initially setup your business.

    #15051

    David Crabill
    Keymaster

    Some counties require every single label with ingredient lists for each and every final product and variation you could possibly make, but I think Sacramento is a little more relaxed about that. However, they may have changed their policy about that, especially considering the fact that their application now asks for “specific foods”. This is one of the limitations of running your business from home — it’s not like a traditional bakery. In case you’re not already aware, you can’t run a bakery from home like you would in a commercial location. You can’t put out signage and people can’t eat your product at your home (tasting should be fine). You probably know that, but just making sure.

    Honestly, I don’t know what Sacramento’s requirements are right now. I’d recommend calling them, as sometimes email has a long turnaround time. Be aware that you might need to figure out, in advance, everything you will be making with specific ingredients listed. It’s typically the longest step in the whole setup process.

    #15005

    David Crabill
    Keymaster

    I agree that it doesn’t make sense from a practical standpoint, but I wouldn’t go so far as to call it discrimination. Although your kitchen has been inspected, a commercial kitchen has to adhere to hundreds of other requirements that your kitchen does not. I don’t think the shipping restriction stems from a food safety concern… rather, it’s a concern about the purpose of the cottage food law and the type and size of businesses that should be running with it.

    The only way to change the law would be to create a bill that would amend the law and pass it through the legislature in the next session (starting in a couple months). People like yourself can and do take the initiative to get these off the ground, and that’s the way most cottage food laws and amendments have been started. It takes a lot of time and effort, as well as finding a representative who will work with you. An amendment like this could allow shipping for all CFOs in CA.

    However, shipping restrictions are not actually built into the law. That recommendation came from the CDPH after the law was enacted, and local health depts have chosen to adopt their recommendation. It is actually possible for a county’s health dept to choose to allow shipping, since that’s not anywhere in the law.

    #15004

    David Crabill
    Keymaster

    It’s not possible to do what you’ve described by using your home kitchen. You can either do this with your home kitchen and sell in-state (you can sell online, but shipping is not allowed) by following the cottage food law described on this site. If you want to sell nationwide, you need to use a commercial kitchen and adhere to a different set of laws. http://forrager.com/faq/#commercial

    #14967

    David Crabill
    Keymaster

    I’m not sure if there’s a definitive answer for this question yet. From what I’ve heard over time, it’s likely that although you can’t ship to the wholesaler (or any other customer), the wholesaler can sell your product by almost any means, including shipping it. It still doesn’t make sense to me why Class B CFOs cannot ship their products within the state. You will need to talk to your health dept for final clarification about what’s allowed in your county/city.

    #14966

    David Crabill
    Keymaster

    Every state has different laws, but here’s a general answer: http://forrager.com/faq/#pet-food
    Quite frankly, I don’t know the specific answer for most states.

    #14965

    David Crabill
    Keymaster

    Since it has cream in it, it’s unlikely that it will be allowed. Often fudge is made with evaporated or condensed milk, and it’s possible that a fudge recipe made with cream would not be allowed.

    But really, it’s entirely up to your environmental health dept to decide. If they aren’t familiar with the law, then they can seek guidance from someone at the CDPH, who is very familiar with the law (can’t remember her name right now).

    #14921

    David Crabill
    Keymaster

    Have you called your health dept yet? Most of the questions you asked don’t have general answers and would be determined by your county or city. It’s not necessarily true that you can run your food business under the LLC that you already have, though sometimes corporations can have multiple businesses associated with them. Basically you just need to keep calling govt depts until you get the referrals you need and find people who know what they’re talking about.

    #14857

    David Crabill
    Keymaster

    You should talk with your health dept to get the proper license. You wouldn’t need to bother with the special licensing for Limited Food Establishments since you wouldn’t be using your home kitchen to produce your items.

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