David Crabill
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- May 22, 2023 at 11:37 am #114051
You can sell fresh, uncut produce without needing any permit. The only restriction, to my knowledge, are sprouts… those are regulated. You could sell under your LLC but you likely don’t have to.
May 22, 2023 at 1:34 am #114035I can’t say that I’ve researched it, but I suspect that many of those laws (I live in CA, so I’ve seen the effects of some of them) would only apply to producers of a certain size.
On top of that, I find that many cottage food producers choose to use the environmentally-friendly packaging regardless, to give their products a higher perceived value. But that would only work in some markets. Or they just do it for personal reasons, even if their margins are lower as a result.
From what I’ve seen, there are viable alternative packaging options for pretty much every use case. The only question is cost. And I suspect that in the locations where the extra cost isn’t feasible, the likelihood of there being a law is much lower.
Plus, if a law is requiring all food producers to use a certain type of packaging, then it bumps the costs for all producers, and therefore bumps the expected costs for consumers. The cottage food producer likely only needs to be willing to adjust their pricing accordingly.
March 4, 2023 at 1:27 am #111074Running a bake sale for a charitable cause falls under different rules, but in this case it sounds like the funds would be for your family’s use (not donated to a nonprofit).
So in that case, if we want to get really technical, the answer is yes, in CA you’d need a permit to legally sell baked goods, and zoning laws might prevent you from selling out of your front yard.
In more practical terms, what you are trying to do is extremely common, and almost nobody is going to stop you or complain. In fact, if anything, they will support you! This is especially true if your kids are helping run the operation. I’d personally say go ahead and don’t worry about the legalities.
Now, if this turns into a weekly thing, and/or you start to sell elsewhere, that’s where I might suggest looking into getting your cottage food permit.
March 4, 2023 at 1:09 am #111072In most states, that would not be allowed since cut potatoes are perishable foods, whether raw or cooked.
However, in your state of Illinois, this is allowed! The main caveat is that you cannot ship them… you can only sell them directly to customers. I suggest reading through the notes in Illinois’ food section to better understand what is and is not allowed. For instance, topping them with salt and olive oil is allowed, but topping them with garlic and olive oil is not allowed. https://forrager.com/law/illinois/#food
March 4, 2023 at 12:52 am #111064Yes they are allowed. And you would copy the entire ingredient list from the Skittles bag.
March 4, 2023 at 12:41 am #111061I see now. Have you contacted the ag dept to verify that they do, in fact, permit home food processing establishments? The law is there in theory, but I still have yet to see one implemented. I know a number of counties don’t allow them at all.
So if they will allow one with zoning approval, then I think it’s just a matter of education for the zoning board. Of course the entire point of having the home food processing establishment law is to allow these types of businesses in residential zones. You are correct that that type of business is separate from a commercial food business. However, it’s usually possible to have a commercial kitchen permitted on a residential property, especially one the size of yours. So the difference really shouldn’t matter from a zoning perspective. The difference in the eyes of the ag dept is that the former allows you to use your home kitchen, while the latter requires you to build a separate kitchen.
The person in charge of zoning probably hasn’t dealt with this before. He’s correct that a traditional bakery wouldn’t be allowed in a residential zone. That’s what he’s familiar with so his response makes sense. But if you understand what the zoning board cares about, it should be quite doable to get them to realize that you actually should be allowed to receive a zoning variance. They want to make sure that your business doesn’t make a residential zone start to feel like a commercial one. Since you are mainly looking into wholesale accounts, you can specify that you either won’t have customers coming to your property, or specify limits on how many customers you will allow per day. Both restrictions are commonly found in laws and ordinances across the country, and work well to meet the needs of both zoning boards and CFOs.
February 19, 2023 at 4:03 am #110363Who is requesting that you get a zoning variance? Is it your city/county to approve a general business license? Or is it your HOA? Considering the nature of the lots in your HOA and your plan to be delivery only, I would be surprised if the HOA board disallowed your business, even if there’s something in the CCRs saying you can’t run a home business. If it were me, I don’t think I’d even mention it to them. It would be different if you lived in an HOA with homes close together.
February 19, 2023 at 3:46 am #110358Shereena, here’s the link to the website tutorial: https://forrager.com/learn/website/
February 19, 2023 at 3:25 am #110353Yes, you can sell popcorn, nuts, candy, and most nonperishable snack foods.
However, you can only produce from your primary residence. I believe the health dept would determine that a motel room’s kitchen — even one that you use for the majority of the year — would not qualify for cottage food production.
February 4, 2023 at 4:45 am #109256I’m not sure if the health dept has taken an official stance on that. I could see it going either way… either they allow it because it’s nonperishable, or they don’t because it’s alcohol-based. If you learn more after contacting them, I’d love to know the answer!
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